what da hell did i found xD
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what da hell did i found xD
Wel i am know for doing crazy shit that mostly doesn't work but EUREKA i have found something very nice indeed.
So i had a thought a crazy thought indeed see i really enjoy playing fiora, but she is bad late because of her necesitie to stack damage. So i came up with the idea of making a rune/masterie set for these kind of champions.
So first of all i did wath no lol player wants to do MATH the enemy of all mankind.
But i want you to keep reading so im not going to bore you with calculations if you don't want. i will pm you them if you want ^^
But back to the matter at hand i thought if champs like fiore, aatrox, are really powerfull early but less late because they are squishy, why should i built a runepage to strengthen their early game? Because well srlsy who is going to burst down aatrox early '-- or go 1v1 fiora without a really early gank.
So after saving not that much money (about 4k) i made 2 sepperate scaling runepages. First of all the anti AP and secondly the Anti AD page Nowthis idea is actually really simple to be honest, stack AD per level in red blue and quints and put armor or magic resist in yellows. Now most of you guys will now think oooow Jesus this noob BUT please do listen a bit further.
Second of all and this is actually more important then the runes itself is the mastery page. Now first i am going to explain why i think this mastery set i built for these kinda champs is essential
-def and off tree both have %abilities
-both don't need to have been maxed to be effective
-allot of versatility because of the mastery arrangement
Now the most important fact here is the percentage and the new per level masteries. If this wasn't here i would have never even tried this kind of page. the thing is percentage is good because the more of something you get the more it becomes in contrary to flats. So know
the masterie page is simple but very effective. Although
do pay in mind you, DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS with champs you never played before or against hard match ups this is a set that the longer you are able to farm and not get your ass kicked the deadlier and more unstoppable you will become.
well this is the general idea i hope you can understand this part pls give feedback
http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/004103000103030000002020130013101100000000000000000000000 example vs AD
So i had a thought a crazy thought indeed see i really enjoy playing fiora, but she is bad late because of her necesitie to stack damage. So i came up with the idea of making a rune/masterie set for these kind of champions.
So first of all i did wath no lol player wants to do MATH the enemy of all mankind.
But i want you to keep reading so im not going to bore you with calculations if you don't want. i will pm you them if you want ^^
But back to the matter at hand i thought if champs like fiore, aatrox, are really powerfull early but less late because they are squishy, why should i built a runepage to strengthen their early game? Because well srlsy who is going to burst down aatrox early '-- or go 1v1 fiora without a really early gank.
So after saving not that much money (about 4k) i made 2 sepperate scaling runepages. First of all the anti AP and secondly the Anti AD page Nowthis idea is actually really simple to be honest, stack AD per level in red blue and quints and put armor or magic resist in yellows. Now most of you guys will now think oooow Jesus this noob BUT please do listen a bit further.
Second of all and this is actually more important then the runes itself is the mastery page. Now first i am going to explain why i think this mastery set i built for these kinda champs is essential
-def and off tree both have %abilities
-both don't need to have been maxed to be effective
-allot of versatility because of the mastery arrangement
Now the most important fact here is the percentage and the new per level masteries. If this wasn't here i would have never even tried this kind of page. the thing is percentage is good because the more of something you get the more it becomes in contrary to flats. So know
the masterie page is simple but very effective. Although
do pay in mind you, DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS with champs you never played before or against hard match ups this is a set that the longer you are able to farm and not get your ass kicked the deadlier and more unstoppable you will become.
well this is the general idea i hope you can understand this part pls give feedback
http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/004103000103030000002020130013101100000000000000000000000 example vs AD
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maguster- Messages : 81
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Age : 29
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
Too difficult. Got my dick stuck in ceiling fan.
But for real doe. I have no idea what you just said. I just read it twice, and still have no clue what you just said :/
But for real doe. I have no idea what you just said. I just read it twice, and still have no clue what you just said :/
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
sorry my english is very bad :/
maguster- Messages : 81
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-29
Age : 29
Localisation : Belgium
Re: what da hell did i found xD
You should actually put the math in this topic,
and show us the diffrences.
How much % ad you would get at like 40 min
and how much at 20
and the diffrence if you would take other runes/masteries
at 40 min
and 20
and if this still looks good, you go and try it out.
then you compare it to what you normally do and MAYBE we have something new and strong here!
Also, check this Post if you dont mind: http://silverhopeproject.topiceo.com/t258-activity-check
and show us the diffrences.
How much % ad you would get at like 40 min
and how much at 20
and the diffrence if you would take other runes/masteries
at 40 min
and 20
and if this still looks good, you go and try it out.
then you compare it to what you normally do and MAYBE we have something new and strong here!
Also, check this Post if you dont mind: http://silverhopeproject.topiceo.com/t258-activity-check
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-25
Age : 27
Re: what da hell did i found xD
oke so the math i don't really know al the terms in english or the commands for some of the symbols so i will try
first of all start with a basic AD based rune page as an example for the base and scaling i wil take darius seeing he has one of the most average ones starting with a total of 50 AD at lvl 1 with a basic + AD rune page
(http://leaguecraft.com/runes/?marks=29,29,29,29,29,29,29,29,29&seals=49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49&glyphs=86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86&quints=7,7,7) this come to a total of 65,3 AD at lvl one without masteries. (+15,3)
starting with my basic AD per lvl page on lvl 1 he gets 52 AD at lvl 1 wich is pretty sad i know
(http://leaguecraft.com/runes/?marks=85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85&seals=49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49&glyphs=86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86&quints=81,81,81) personally seeing i have enough rune pages i take out the flat mr for more scaling and get a page with yellow armors or yellow mr wich gives us a bit more damage (http://leaguecraft.com/runes/?marks=85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85&seals=49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49&glyphs=55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55&quints=81,81,81) 53 yeey xD
now the important factor of course is our masterie page first of the totals (i took the maximum amount scaling page)
flats: 65.3 AD lvl1
scaling: 53 AD lvl1
now for the masterie page i personally like this 1 in combo with this page
(http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/004103001103030103012020130010000000000000000000000000000)
now lets calculate first our variabels
each get + 5 A1D from martial mastery
+0.55 scaling per level on AD
warlord gives us + 5% on bonus AD
and plus 3% damage because of havoc
now the reason i did not include the bonus ad ap pen and the plus 5% under 50% hp is because i wil do this sepereatly.
now our totals at lvl 1 with martial and the scaling are
flats:70,8
scaling:58,8
now i calculated the extra ad on bonus from warlord
flats:71,8
scaling:59,2
getting the percentage damage 3%
flats:75,39
scaling:62,3
i calculated without calcualting armor but this is for keeping it a bit simple
now our total valuas at lvl 1 are the above lets say at lvl 6 (wich can be a huge turning point at top)
both have the following stats(no items)
flats:78,59
scaling:79.2 AD so at lvl 6 you already have outscaled you flats so nopw you can suddenly get plusses
at the totale of lvl18 without items or initial lvl scaling (this makes a difference of +- 5 AD because lvl scaling dfoes not count as bonus AD)
flats come to at wopping total of
82.59 super right ? but wait what is happining now
scalers get a total of....
50+40,91+4=94,91+(40,91*5/100)=94,91+2+5(from mertial)=101,91 damage no items watsoever or scaling now this is a difference of 18,51 damage now think your outzscaling already start at lvl 6 now a total of stas if i play both builds on darius at lvl 18 my totalqs will come on
klik this link http://leaguecraft.com/builder/darius/?items=139,85,105,62,87,29&level=18&fspells=true and input the masteries and runes yourself and select your lvl seeing i cant save any of those and then you have youre answer ^^
first of all start with a basic AD based rune page as an example for the base and scaling i wil take darius seeing he has one of the most average ones starting with a total of 50 AD at lvl 1 with a basic + AD rune page
(http://leaguecraft.com/runes/?marks=29,29,29,29,29,29,29,29,29&seals=49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49&glyphs=86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86&quints=7,7,7) this come to a total of 65,3 AD at lvl one without masteries. (+15,3)
starting with my basic AD per lvl page on lvl 1 he gets 52 AD at lvl 1 wich is pretty sad i know
(http://leaguecraft.com/runes/?marks=85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85&seals=49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49&glyphs=86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86,86&quints=81,81,81) personally seeing i have enough rune pages i take out the flat mr for more scaling and get a page with yellow armors or yellow mr wich gives us a bit more damage (http://leaguecraft.com/runes/?marks=85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85,85&seals=49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49,49&glyphs=55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55&quints=81,81,81) 53 yeey xD
now the important factor of course is our masterie page first of the totals (i took the maximum amount scaling page)
flats: 65.3 AD lvl1
scaling: 53 AD lvl1
now for the masterie page i personally like this 1 in combo with this page
(http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/004103001103030103012020130010000000000000000000000000000)
now lets calculate first our variabels
each get + 5 A1D from martial mastery
+0.55 scaling per level on AD
warlord gives us + 5% on bonus AD
and plus 3% damage because of havoc
now the reason i did not include the bonus ad ap pen and the plus 5% under 50% hp is because i wil do this sepereatly.
now our totals at lvl 1 with martial and the scaling are
flats:70,8
scaling:58,8
now i calculated the extra ad on bonus from warlord
flats:71,8
scaling:59,2
getting the percentage damage 3%
flats:75,39
scaling:62,3
i calculated without calcualting armor but this is for keeping it a bit simple
now our total valuas at lvl 1 are the above lets say at lvl 6 (wich can be a huge turning point at top)
both have the following stats(no items)
flats:78,59
scaling:79.2 AD so at lvl 6 you already have outscaled you flats so nopw you can suddenly get plusses
at the totale of lvl18 without items or initial lvl scaling (this makes a difference of +- 5 AD because lvl scaling dfoes not count as bonus AD)
flats come to at wopping total of
82.59 super right ? but wait what is happining now
scalers get a total of....
50+40,91+4=94,91+(40,91*5/100)=94,91+2+5(from mertial)=101,91 damage no items watsoever or scaling now this is a difference of 18,51 damage now think your outzscaling already start at lvl 6 now a total of stas if i play both builds on darius at lvl 18 my totalqs will come on
klik this link http://leaguecraft.com/builder/darius/?items=139,85,105,62,87,29&level=18&fspells=true and input the masteries and runes yourself and select your lvl seeing i cant save any of those and then you have youre answer ^^
maguster- Messages : 81
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
So conclusion (like most per lvl runes)
at lvl 6 you out scale the normal ones...
so most champ that get a real power spike the moment they turn 6 will benefit from this.
doesn't sound to bad IMO.
I think that in a favoreble match up this would be very good.
But Im not to sure (as Im not genuilly a top laner)
at lvl 6 you out scale the normal ones...
so most champ that get a real power spike the moment they turn 6 will benefit from this.
doesn't sound to bad IMO.
I think that in a favoreble match up this would be very good.
But Im not to sure (as Im not genuilly a top laner)
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
wel the thing is previous meta lvl 3 was the turning point in top lane because mostly then or a you went all in or a jungler comes bye to rape your ass BUT now seeing the current meta is heading towards more season 1/2 extended lane phases the turning point shifted to lvl 6 or even 11 this is also why renekton nasus voli mundo have become such favorible picks because the mostly build tanky and this costs the most money wich they need in their extended period
maguster- Messages : 81
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
i quote dyrus it was a nice 4v4 game
Raenef- Messages : 220
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
i do not compute with this quote pls explain in detail
maguster- Messages : 81
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
top lane is an island, isolated out there at the north pole while the rest fight for objectives like dragon or mid tower.
Dan the mang- Messages : 30
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maguster- Messages : 81
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
toplane is funneh now ... mid-bot-jungle is like a huge party and the toplaners didn't got an invite ... (unless they cheat themself in with a teleport, or shen ult) ... but the point is, the toplaners are not on the guest list, that's why they fight for honor far faaar away ... the better one might get an invite to a party, so they farm to prove to be better ... in the end, everyone gets in the party, because people try to kill their house (the others got too drunk on the party and try to destroy everything)
-> league of legends (in the perspective of a season 4 toplaner) in a nutshell
-> league of legends (in the perspective of a season 4 toplaner) in a nutshell
Hijaubiru- Messages : 71
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
rene and shyvana fought the hole game 1v1 first top lane later botlane inner tower and did not take part in the "rest" of the game
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
I wasn't even realising this. I watch so many LCS games. but now that I think of it.
You are right, top lane is just head bashing the whole game and just farm. untill some were they join there team once and then just go to farm again.
You are right, top lane is just head bashing the whole game and just farm. untill some were they join there team once and then just go to farm again.
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
and in other games they practically played 1v1 all game
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
wow now i feel very useless as a top laner
maguster- Messages : 81
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
renekton shyvanna mundo olaf are rather strong and played at the moment in the toplane
Raenef- Messages : 220
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
Rengar is also a very strong champ in the top lane right now
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
Mostly champs who can build hp, are resourceless, and have very good sustain!
(I feel like I mis 1 thing thats they need to have as well, but you get the idea)
(I feel like I mis 1 thing thats they need to have as well, but you get the idea)
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
yep i missed him guess cause he was banned fromthe lcs promo tournament ^^
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
i must say rengar is quit strong now if you lvl his roar the sustain/tankyness is a rather underestimated power xD
maguster- Messages : 81
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
was like first two items were sunfire and spirit visage i think
Raenef- Messages : 220
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
Yes he was banned in OGN and in BotA, because of some bug with tripple Q and leap auto attack, as far as I'm a were of
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
Of course Rengar is strong, he fits perfectly in the current meta,
Resourceless
Sustain in his abilities
Great tank and splitpusher
wondering... what IF you build Tryndamere tank like all the other top laners atm... would that work?
I doubt it, but HEY you NEVER KNOW!
Resourceless
Sustain in his abilities
Great tank and splitpusher
wondering... what IF you build Tryndamere tank like all the other top laners atm... would that work?
I doubt it, but HEY you NEVER KNOW!
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
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Re: what da hell did i found xD
wel instead of sunfire i like to got botrk spirit randuins my thooth and mostly hydra's
maguster- Messages : 81
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