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Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?

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Post by ThatOnePikachu 16th November 2013, 16:21

Jungle Leona.

Stop being so awesome.

Leona.

Stahp.

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I should start maining this shit. I just can't seem to lose.
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Post by Snej 16th November 2013, 16:44

I think it goes with Jungle Leona as with all the other "unconventional" picks. People are not sure about the weaknesses and strength and therefore it is hard for them to react well. As long as you know your strength and weakness while they don't, you are always 1 step ahead. Jungle Leona also has been used in competitive LoL a few times, especially by Nintendudex in the Jungle or in a kind of roaming position from different support players.
Also as you provide a lot of CC and Tankiness, you are not that dependant on your lanes to hit their stuns etc. while ganking and if they do you get an even longer cc chain.

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Post by ThatOnePikachu 16th November 2013, 16:53

Ye exactly. Like, I have had so many enemy junglers diving me when i'm on 200 hp because they see me as a "support", but hell, I can 1v1 a khazix if I play it right.

People underestimate me so much (:
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Post by Raenef 16th November 2013, 17:35

the only deficit is that leonas wave clear isn't that high but with her e she can engage on ganks and then stunlock till the end
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Post by ThatOnePikachu 16th November 2013, 17:43

Raenef wrote:the only deficit is that leonas wave clear isn't that high but with her e she can engage on ganks and then stunlock till the end
Idk doe. My W and sunfire makes quick work of waves.
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Post by DarthAl 19th November 2013, 12:59

I always though that Leona jungle is a very very viable pick : he got movement, cc, tankiness. If you give her good runes and masteries, killing the creeps in early-game is not difficult.

I suggest you to talk less about it ;)I think it can be a very very nice alternative pick if you team-play with an AD assassin mid (Zed, Talon, Pantheon..). Don't let great teams use this idea :Pbut I guess a lot of pro already though about it.

The problem is her early-game dmg : she can not really counter-jungle, for example. She needs too much help for blue.


But it's great idea anyways, I think you must work more on it about map-control strategy and counter-jungling. If you success this with Leona, you can go far with this idea I think.




About your stats, remember that you're Bronze...... You can go Soraka Jungle and carry against other Bronze noobs so I'm not sure it's really impressive Razz
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Post by shadowxm 19th November 2013, 15:37

to put it blunty no leona is not a viable pick outside of bronze where simply anything is viable.
Her clear speed is extremely slow making her viable to invasions and her dmg extremly mediocre so without high assassin lanes you have no kill potential.
Any decent enemy jungle would just perma invade and stop you from being able to lvl
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Post by Snej 19th November 2013, 15:43

It is viable in silver as well for sure.

Source: I am in silver and witness what is viable there.

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Post by shadowxm 19th November 2013, 16:23

I think you missunderstood what I ment by viable. In regards to viable I mean you can get away with playing it because people dont understand how to beat it. Even in bronze/silver it is not good and is not efficient at climbing elo consistently.
Yes I am sure you can play it in silver and it might win but my concern is this.
Why would you want to learn her?
I have been re-learning kha'zix recently and have done almost nothing but that champion to get to a point that I am comfortable so my concern is why are you playing that many games on a champion that at the end of the day will not be useful once you hit a higher elo where you think you deserve to be.
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Post by DarthAl 19th November 2013, 16:51

On soloQ any champion can be usefull depending of how you play it, no ?
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Post by shadowxm 19th November 2013, 18:26

no in teams any champions can be useful depending on how you build your comp.
In solo queue being successful is highly depending on being able to control the game from your champion
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Post by ThatOnePikachu 19th November 2013, 18:36

shadowxm wrote:no in teams any champions can be useful depending on how you build your comp.
In solo queue being successful is highly depending on being able to control the game from your champion
I will prove that wrong to you by only playing Jungle Leona and get to gold+ one day.

I'm actually in Silver btw .-. Not Bronze.

And no dmg? You insane? I can handle most people and my passive is PERFECT for counterganks/small skermishes.
Leona actually has a lot of damage if combined with 1 other person simply because of her passive. I'm able to duel against most enemy junglers aswell.
Don't underestimate her Smile
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Post by TT SCHUNDER 20th November 2013, 05:29

well your Acc is lvl 21 so its obvious people cant react well to non standard picks a good solid team with some experience will have no problems with u or at least less problems like they would have against 4 example heca and stuff Smile your Jungling is quite slow and i think you can be counter Jungled very early but hmm i dont know shit bout jungling Very Happy

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Post by DarthAl 20th November 2013, 14:42

TT SCHUNDER wrote:well your Acc is lvl 21 so its obvious people cant react well to non standard picks
Wow I even didn't see that...


Indeed when you even not playing ranked, it is useless to debate I guess !
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Post by Snej 20th November 2013, 15:36

^
This

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Post by ThatOnePikachu 22nd November 2013, 18:03

It's League of Smurfs doe.

But I also play Jungle Leona on my Main which is Silver V atm.

And I play as good :/
I just play alot of Jungle Leona on my "Best JGL Leona" account cuz. Well. Ye.
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Post by Poxycolon 22nd November 2013, 18:39

well just saying, name 1 thing about jungle leona that other champions cant do better, and at the same time be more of a pressence overall. want a tank? go shyvana, want CC? go fiddle, want heavy gank pressure? go j4, or if u want a combination go something like elise,

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Post by ThatOnePikachu 22nd November 2013, 18:47

Very strong early ganks and able to dive at very low levels.

And she doesn't EXCEL at something but is really good all around.
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Post by Poxycolon 22nd November 2013, 18:49

the strong early game pressance is what j4 is best at, and the overall is what u can pick elise for imo.

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Post by ThatOnePikachu 22nd November 2013, 18:51

Lee Sin is the best early ganker in the game with his extra damage and gapclosers.

Does that means every other early game jungler shouldn't be used? No because some others might have other strenghts.
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Post by SrGankalot 28th November 2013, 20:09

shadowxm wrote:to put it blunty no leona is not a viable pick outside of bronze where simply everything is viable.
This made me want to create an acount.
get in bronze on purpose, so that I can relife the joy of Jungle Malzahar
!
Were I could just pick Malzahar jungle and NOBODY would blame or even rage at me!
I would then proceed to AFK farm (only gank when I had Red buff + ult and the enemy had to flash), and get to my 3 base items as fast as possible!
then I would be 2>4 lvls higher then everybody in there team and I would be atleast up 1 item.

and then I would proceed to To rape all of them and carry the game!

oooh the good days *Dreams off*
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Post by ThatOnePikachu 29th November 2013, 18:31

Why don't you do that right now? :3

I play tonnes of strange junglers!

Leona, Orianna, Poopy, (used to do sona but she's unviable in S4), Thresh, Fizz, Kassadin.

All dem good stuff :3
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