Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
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ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
I think it goes with Jungle Leona as with all the other "unconventional" picks. People are not sure about the weaknesses and strength and therefore it is hard for them to react well. As long as you know your strength and weakness while they don't, you are always 1 step ahead. Jungle Leona also has been used in competitive LoL a few times, especially by Nintendudex in the Jungle or in a kind of roaming position from different support players.
Also as you provide a lot of CC and Tankiness, you are not that dependant on your lanes to hit their stuns etc. while ganking and if they do you get an even longer cc chain.
Also as you provide a lot of CC and Tankiness, you are not that dependant on your lanes to hit their stuns etc. while ganking and if they do you get an even longer cc chain.
Snej- Messages : 24
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-07
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
Ye exactly. Like, I have had so many enemy junglers diving me when i'm on 200 hp because they see me as a "support", but hell, I can 1v1 a khazix if I play it right.
People underestimate me so much (:
People underestimate me so much (:
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
the only deficit is that leonas wave clear isn't that high but with her e she can engage on ganks and then stunlock till the end
Raenef- Messages : 220
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-18
Localisation : germany
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
Idk doe. My W and sunfire makes quick work of waves.Raenef wrote:the only deficit is that leonas wave clear isn't that high but with her e she can engage on ganks and then stunlock till the end
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
I always though that Leona jungle is a very very viable pick : he got movement, cc, tankiness. If you give her good runes and masteries, killing the creeps in early-game is not difficult.
I suggest you to talk less about it ;)I think it can be a very very nice alternative pick if you team-play with an AD assassin mid (Zed, Talon, Pantheon..). Don't let great teams use this idea :Pbut I guess a lot of pro already though about it.
The problem is her early-game dmg : she can not really counter-jungle, for example. She needs too much help for blue.
But it's great idea anyways, I think you must work more on it about map-control strategy and counter-jungling. If you success this with Leona, you can go far with this idea I think.
About your stats, remember that you're Bronze...... You can go Soraka Jungle and carry against other Bronze noobs so I'm not sure it's really impressive
I suggest you to talk less about it ;)I think it can be a very very nice alternative pick if you team-play with an AD assassin mid (Zed, Talon, Pantheon..). Don't let great teams use this idea :Pbut I guess a lot of pro already though about it.
The problem is her early-game dmg : she can not really counter-jungle, for example. She needs too much help for blue.
But it's great idea anyways, I think you must work more on it about map-control strategy and counter-jungling. If you success this with Leona, you can go far with this idea I think.
About your stats, remember that you're Bronze...... You can go Soraka Jungle and carry against other Bronze noobs so I'm not sure it's really impressive
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
to put it blunty no leona is not a viable pick outside of bronze where simply anything is viable.
Her clear speed is extremely slow making her viable to invasions and her dmg extremly mediocre so without high assassin lanes you have no kill potential.
Any decent enemy jungle would just perma invade and stop you from being able to lvl
Her clear speed is extremely slow making her viable to invasions and her dmg extremly mediocre so without high assassin lanes you have no kill potential.
Any decent enemy jungle would just perma invade and stop you from being able to lvl
shadowxm- Messages : 7
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-06
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
It is viable in silver as well for sure.
Source: I am in silver and witness what is viable there.
Source: I am in silver and witness what is viable there.
Snej- Messages : 24
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-07
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
I think you missunderstood what I ment by viable. In regards to viable I mean you can get away with playing it because people dont understand how to beat it. Even in bronze/silver it is not good and is not efficient at climbing elo consistently.
Yes I am sure you can play it in silver and it might win but my concern is this.
Why would you want to learn her?
I have been re-learning kha'zix recently and have done almost nothing but that champion to get to a point that I am comfortable so my concern is why are you playing that many games on a champion that at the end of the day will not be useful once you hit a higher elo where you think you deserve to be.
Yes I am sure you can play it in silver and it might win but my concern is this.
Why would you want to learn her?
I have been re-learning kha'zix recently and have done almost nothing but that champion to get to a point that I am comfortable so my concern is why are you playing that many games on a champion that at the end of the day will not be useful once you hit a higher elo where you think you deserve to be.
shadowxm- Messages : 7
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-06
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
On soloQ any champion can be usefull depending of how you play it, no ?
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
no in teams any champions can be useful depending on how you build your comp.
In solo queue being successful is highly depending on being able to control the game from your champion
In solo queue being successful is highly depending on being able to control the game from your champion
shadowxm- Messages : 7
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-06
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
I will prove that wrong to you by only playing Jungle Leona and get to gold+ one day.shadowxm wrote:no in teams any champions can be useful depending on how you build your comp.
In solo queue being successful is highly depending on being able to control the game from your champion
I'm actually in Silver btw .-. Not Bronze.
And no dmg? You insane? I can handle most people and my passive is PERFECT for counterganks/small skermishes.
Leona actually has a lot of damage if combined with 1 other person simply because of her passive. I'm able to duel against most enemy junglers aswell.
Don't underestimate her
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
well your Acc is lvl 21 so its obvious people cant react well to non standard picks a good solid team with some experience will have no problems with u or at least less problems like they would have against 4 example heca and stuff your Jungling is quite slow and i think you can be counter Jungled very early but hmm i dont know shit bout jungling
TT SCHUNDER- Messages : 45
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-20
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
Wow I even didn't see that...TT SCHUNDER wrote:well your Acc is lvl 21 so its obvious people cant react well to non standard picks
Indeed when you even not playing ranked, it is useless to debate I guess !
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
It's League of Smurfs doe.
But I also play Jungle Leona on my Main which is Silver V atm.
And I play as good :/
I just play alot of Jungle Leona on my "Best JGL Leona" account cuz. Well. Ye.
But I also play Jungle Leona on my Main which is Silver V atm.
And I play as good :/
I just play alot of Jungle Leona on my "Best JGL Leona" account cuz. Well. Ye.
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
well just saying, name 1 thing about jungle leona that other champions cant do better, and at the same time be more of a pressence overall. want a tank? go shyvana, want CC? go fiddle, want heavy gank pressure? go j4, or if u want a combination go something like elise,
Poxycolon- Messages : 27
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-20
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
Very strong early ganks and able to dive at very low levels.
And she doesn't EXCEL at something but is really good all around.
And she doesn't EXCEL at something but is really good all around.
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
the strong early game pressance is what j4 is best at, and the overall is what u can pick elise for imo.
Poxycolon- Messages : 27
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-20
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
Lee Sin is the best early ganker in the game with his extra damage and gapclosers.
Does that means every other early game jungler shouldn't be used? No because some others might have other strenghts.
Does that means every other early game jungler shouldn't be used? No because some others might have other strenghts.
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
This made me want to create an acount.shadowxm wrote:to put it blunty no leona is not a viable pick outside of bronze where simply everything is viable.
get in bronze on purpose, so that I can relife the joy of Jungle Malzahar
!
Were I could just pick Malzahar jungle and NOBODY would blame or even rage at me!
I would then proceed to AFK farm (only gank when I had Red buff + ult and the enemy had to flash), and get to my 3 base items as fast as possible!
then I would be 2>4 lvls higher then everybody in there team and I would be atleast up 1 item.
and then I would proceed to To rape all of them and carry the game!
oooh the good days *Dreams off*
SrGankalot- Messages : 60
Date d'inscription : 2013-11-25
Age : 27
Re: Is Jungle Leona OP or am I OP ?
Why don't you do that right now? :3
I play tonnes of strange junglers!
Leona, Orianna, Poopy, (used to do sona but she's unviable in S4), Thresh, Fizz, Kassadin.
All dem good stuff :3
I play tonnes of strange junglers!
Leona, Orianna, Poopy, (used to do sona but she's unviable in S4), Thresh, Fizz, Kassadin.
All dem good stuff :3
ThatOnePikachu- Messages : 158
Date d'inscription : 2013-10-22
Age : 28
Localisation : Belgium (Flanders)
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